2 Tim 4:3-4 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. (NIV)
I apologize for the bluntness of some the statements I am about to make. It is not my intention to offend anybody except the devil, the traditions of man and the lies they propagate against my Dad. If you do find yourself offended at some of the statements, go read the scripture references and decide for yourself if what I say is true or not, or even if everything you believe to be true about God is actually true.
My Father is not…
… a child abuser: He doesn’t make His children sick. (Ex 15:26, Is 53:5, Matt 8:16, 1 Pet 2:24, Acts 10:38)
… double-minded: He doesn’t decide to heal one day and refuse the next. (2 Cor 1:20, Mat 12:25, 1 Tim 2:4)
… an angry God: Sure He can get angry but His anger is directed to those hurting and oppressing His children. (Is 35, Is 54:9, Acts 10:38)
… against His children: God is anti-anything that comes against you to destroy you, steal from you or harm you. (Is 54:15, Eph 6:16, Acts 10:38)
… the devil: He does not steal, kill or destroy. Anything that steals, kills or destroys any part of you is the devil. (John 10:10, Acts 10:38, Matt 12:24-25)
… a bully: Bullies try to humiliate you to make you feel worthless. You have to pay off the mafia to not make bad things happen to you. You don’t pay-off God with tithes or good works. God also does not allow sickness to humble us or teach us anything. He has His Spirit and the Word to teach you with, He doesn’t need the devil’s help. (Is 50:7 Is 54:4, Acts 10:38, Matt 8:16-17, 2 Tim 3:16-17, 1 John 2:27)
… a mafia boss: You have to pay off the mafia to keep them from doing bad things to you and to protect against bad things happening. You don’t pay-off God with tithes or good works. (Tithing series)
… a rapist: He does not force intimacy on His bride. We are co-labourers, co-workers and co-missioned. When one party is forced to do something they are no longer co-labouring or co-working. (2 Cor 6:1, 1 Cor 3:9)
… a sin accountant: He doesn’t keep score of your sins, nor does He weigh them against your good deeds in order to decide whether you are in right standing before Him or not. Jesus is your right standing. He forgave ALL your sins. (Eph 2:8-9, Heb 8:12, Heb 10:17, Rom 3:20-25)
… an adulterer: He only relates to people inside covenant. How He relates to you is based on which covenant YOU decide to live under. The old covenant of law brings only death and destruction. The New Covenant brings life and life abundantly. (2 Cor 3:5-9, Gal 5:4, Gal 3:2, Heb 8:8-13, Heb 7:18, Rom 10:4)
… a murderer: He didn’t kill Jesus to atone for your sins only to punish you for them too. If He punishes you for your sins, Jesus died for nothing. He judged Jesus guilty so you can be set FREE! (Rom 5:8, Rom 3:24, Rom 8:1, Is 53:5)
… a prostitute: You can’t buy blessings from Him through giving or tithing. God does not reward tithing, He rewards faith. If you want to tithe, tithe yourself because God would much rather have you then your money. (Heb 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Gal 2:16)
… thief: Yes, He gives and takes away, but He gives us what we don’t deserve (mercy & grace) and takes away what we do deserve (judgment and death). (Eph 1:3, Rom 6:23, John 3:16-17)
… a genie: He doesn’t grant wishes, He fulfills promises. (2 Cor 1:20)
… a homophobe: He came to set all men free regardless of the bondage they are under. Is anybody beyond God’s reach? Is there anybody not worth saving? You weren’t worth saving yet He saved you anyway. He knew you weren’t going to stop sinning after He saved you yet He saved you anyway. What makes your sin less worse than somebody else’s? Stop judging the very people you are called to preserve and be the salt of the earth. Stop keeping people in bondage when you have the key to set them free. God didn’t save you based on your works, why should He then save others based on theirs? (Matt 5:13, John 12:47, Matt 7:1-5, Eph 2:8-9)
… manipulative: He doesn’t wave blessings in front of our noses to make us do good things. He blessed us with everything He had in Christ already. Reward for good and curse for bad was the old covenant which has been done away with. (Eph 1:3, Rom 8:16-17, Gal 4:7, 2 Cor 3:5-9, Gal 5:4, Gal 3:2, Heb 8:8-13, Heb 7:18, Rom 10:4)
… an evolutionist: He is a creationist. Why then do some people think they are someday going to evolve into a super-christian? “One more conference, one more anointing, one more impartation, one more check to write, one more book to read and then I will be ready…” You have everything you need to do what you need to do, just go do it! (2 Pet 1:3-4, Acts 1:8, 1 John 2:20, 1 John 2:27, Eph 1:3, Rom 8:16-17, Matt 28:18, Mark 16:15-18, John 14:12, 2 Tim 4:2)
I hope I didn’t upset anybody too much. Again, I encourage you to read the scripture references and see for yourself how the traditions of man and the devil try to misrepresent our Dad. I for one am fed up. You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free!
Grace to you all!
Cornel
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You have the same Father as me, I say amen to everything you are saying here, thanks for sharing Cornel… Hope we can meet up soon…. Need a Grace church down here on the Kapiti Coast…
True HOLY biblical tithes were always only food from inside God’s HOLY land of Israel which He had miraculously increased. Jesus did not qualifiy as a tithe payer and neither did anybody outside Israel. http://www.tithing-russkelly.com
Amen. As I grew up in the”law mentality”, I really have to re-learn everything in the bible. Thank you to remind me.
Good word. However, he does reward you if you tithe and I don’t think there is anyway around it. The tithe was not an old covenant principle. Tithing was established 400 years before the Old Covenant. It was not done away with Christ, because He came to fulfill the Law(Old Covenant). The tithe is separate from the Old Covenant. On top of that the High Priest, in the Old Covenant would receive the tithe and pray the blessing of the tithe. Now Jesus, in the New Covenant receives our tithes and prays the “blessing of the tithe” over our lives. That’s in the book of Hebrews 7. The tithe was and still is 10% off the gross of our income, separate from our ministerial workings. (Mal. 3; Heb. 7)
The goodness of God leads us to repentance. With all respect He shows His goodness and rewards those that diligently seek Him. He does tell us His good blessings and benefits so that we know when let Him live through us, He rewards us. Other than that I agree with you. Well spoken with the rest of what you wrote. I would prefer to hear what you said everyday of the week and twice on Sunday than what most of the Body of Christ teaches.
Jesus is my right standing before God. wooooooooooohoooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Jesse, thanks for your comments about the tithe.
I might write a little about this specific topic in the near future, as it has been abused by much of the church in our time. As Russel also pointed out above, the original tithe was never made with money. Only farmers and land owners were instructed to tithe and they could only do so with the first fruits of the land or with animals. I will reference all of this in the article I am going to prepare. I agree that Jesus came to fulfill the law but He didn’t teach us to give 10% of our income. Paul reiterates this in 2 Cor 9:7:
2Co 9:7 Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
God loves a cheerful giver, who give without feeling compelled, obligated or forced to do so. If somebody says, “You HAVE TO give 10%”, then they have laid down a law, compelling them to do so. When you go back under law, you fall from grace. (Gal 5:4). As for Heb 7, Paul was pointing out the difference between the old and new covenants. In verse 12 he writes:
Heb 7:12 For when there is a change in the priesthood, there is necessarily a change in the law as well.
When Jesus came there was a change in the priesthood and therefor there was a change in the law. Since Jesus fulfilled the law, we have no more law to live up to in order to receive blessings from God. Jesus + anything = nothing. Jesus + nothing = everything. In other words, if people say one has to tithe, they are saying Jesus + our obedience = blessing. That is just not gospel.
If you go read the story about Abraham and Melchizidec in Gen 14 again, you might notice that he gave a tenth to Melchizidec but he didn’t give anything from what he owned or possessed personally. It was only from the spoils of war. Abraham then went on and gave the other 90% to the king of Sodom. Abraham gave 100% of his increase away. If you want to follow that example, then 10% is not even close.
If you want to tithe and give 10% every month, that is great. But if you think that God is going to withhold a blessing because you didn’t tithe, the you are working for the blessing and would probably feel condemned if you skip a month. If you feel condemned, it shows you are trying to establish righteousness based on your own performance instead of faith in Jesus. I hope you understand, I will write an article about tithing soon and reference all those verses properly.
Thanks for your encouraging words at the end!
Much love and grace,
Cornel
I will study this out and I look forward to what you have to write in the future. Thank you
Thanks for the advice. Will put it to work. Tom
that is a very good word!
thankyou Cornel, the smile on my face just got bigger and bigger the more i read!
you are blessed :]
What a good word Cornel! There is nothing more ‘fleshy’ than a good dose of ‘self-righteousness.’ By that I mean, when I impute my sins to my self, dont forgive my self, remain under guilt & condemnation, and punish my self and go about establishining my own righteousness which is what I have ‘born by the will of the flesh’ which is everything I do to gain acceptance, forgiveness and blessings by my obedience to the law, including tithing to get God (manipulation New Covenant style) to bless me, than all of that is what comes from people who wont ‘put up with sound (what Jesus has done for us, as us) doctrine but have itchy ears (what I must do to get God to do something based on my obedience). This includes ‘tithing.’ How come Phil. 4:19 doesnt say (Paul never once mentioned tithing) “But my God shall supply all your need according to your tithing or sowing?” We cannot even tithe to Jesus because He is of the tribe of Judah, the tithe went to the tribe of Levi, under the law! Also, Im just using this as an example ok? Abraham never got blessed for tithing, he tithed because God had already blessed him and Melchizedek (I believe was Jesus) said “Blessed are you Abraham, blessed are you whom God HAS (past tense) subdued your enemies.” Besides, Jesus redeemed us from the curse of the law which means I am not cursed if I dont tithe, and I dont get any more blessed than by what Jesus has already done for me if I do tithe. We give from what Jesus has done, not to get Him to do something He has not already done. Its been awhile since I spoke with you, CONTINUE TO PREACH WHAT YOU ARE PREACHING, we love you!
Richard Gamel has it right. Good for you. After writing my PHD on tithing and being rebuffed, it is so refreshing to see it right once in a while.
When I visit your page, feel my knowledge rise. This is good !
Cornel, this is a terrific list of attributes about our Father. I particularly liked the one about God not being a thief. How about a follow-up post entitled, “My Father is…”?
What a good word Cornel! There is nothing more ‘fleshy’ than a good dose of ‘self-righteousness.’ By that I mean, when I impute my sins to my self, dont forgive my self, remain under guilt & condemnation, and punish my self and go about establishining my own righteousness which is what I have ‘born by the will of the flesh’ which is everything I do to gain acceptance, forgiveness and blessings by my obedience to the law, including tithing to get God (manipulation New Covenant style) to bless me, than all of that is what comes from people who wont ‘put up with sound (what Jesus has done for us, as us) doctrine but have itchy ears (what I must do to get God to do something based on my obedience). This includes ‘tithing.’ How come Phil. 4:19 doesnt say (Paul never once mentioned tithing) “But my God shall supply all your need according to your tithing or sowing?” We cannot even tithe to Jesus because He is of the tribe of Judah, the tithe went to the tribe of Levi, under the law! Also, Im just using this as an example ok? Abraham never got blessed for tithing, he tithed because God had already blessed him and Melchizedek (I believe was Jesus) said “Blessed are you Abraham, blessed are you whom God HAS (past tense) subdued your enemies.” Besides, Jesus redeemed us from the curse of the law which means I am not cursed if I dont tithe, and I dont get any more blessed than by what Jesus has already done for me if I do tithe. We give from what Jesus has done, not to get Him to do something He has not already done. Its been awhile since I spoke with you, CONTINUE TO PREACH WHAT YOU ARE PREACHING, we love you!
Thanks Michelle!
I not going to stop! Thanks for the encouragement! Bless you heaps!
Cornel